阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 08:21:11

建议精锐掷矛战士增加对战象射手的附加攻击。

       对比一下。长戟兵对骑兵的附加攻击为32,对战象则为60。只因为战象的血比骑兵厚得多,攻击也更强。精锐掷矛战士对骑射的附加攻击为6,但对战象射手的却也是一样。战象射手的血是骑射的好几倍,且在价格上相对要比波斯战象还要便宜。但它没有有效的相克兵种,一旦成规模后基本很难打得动了。所以在此类比长戟对骑兵和战象的附加攻击的不同,希望赋矛精锐掷矛战士对战象射手更高的附加攻击力!

lockoff 发表于 2013-1-31 09:42:58

你说的这点技术上无法实现,而且长戟对象射手也只有30附加不是大象的60

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 09:56:23

lockoff 发表于 2013-1-31 09:42 static/image/common/back.gif
你说的这点技术上无法实现,而且长戟对象射手也只有30附加不是大象的60

象射难道没有大象类属性?

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 10:19:30

我用AGE查看了一下,战矛兵对象射增加附加攻击的确很难实现。战矛对弓箭兵类附加攻击是4,对骑射手类附加攻击是2,骑射手拥有那两项属性,所以战矛兵对骑射手附加攻击是6.如果要增加对象射的附加攻击,除非给象射另加一个属性。在24个类别中,是否可以增加给象射一个其他单位没有的类别属性来达到这个目的?如增加象射一个属性为“有害生物类”,然后增加战矛兵对“有害生物类”的攻击为6点,最后战矛兵总体对象射附加攻击为4+2+6=12

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 10:32:49

本帖最后由 阿拉伯野猪 于 2013-1-31 10:34 编辑

好像也是不行啊,“马扎尔一击杀狼”,要是给象射加那个属性的话。。。

lockoff 发表于 2013-1-31 10:39:34

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 09:56 static/image/common/back.gif
象射难道没有大象类属性?

是的,没有大象属性,而且CYSION也不打算加上去


实战玩了几次象射手还是很难成型,而且容易死,目前定位算是比较平衡,并不是很强力。
我看不适合再削弱了。

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 10:42:39

lockoff 发表于 2013-1-31 10:39 static/image/common/back.gif
是的,没有大象属性,而且CYSION也不打算加上去




哦,这样啊,那再等待一下时间的验证吧。。

yty 发表于 2013-1-31 10:53:18

技术上很容易实现。。攻防属性类别不是仅限于那二十几个的,完全可以自创。。龟甲船、战象都是典型的少数几个单位就占用一个属性标签的,未分配名额还有很多,技术上给很多很多兵种各分配多样的标签都是可以实现的。

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 11:24:36

yty 发表于 2013-1-31 10:53 https://www.hawkaoe.net/bbs/static/image/common/back.gif
技术上很容易实现。。攻防属性类别不是仅限于那二十几个的,完全可以自创。。龟甲船、战象都是典型的少数几 ...

你太利害了。我对AGE2.45里面的图象增量不是很理解,能否解析一下。

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 11:37:10

yty 发表于 2013-1-31 10:53 static/image/common/back.gif
技术上很容易实现。。攻防属性类别不是仅限于那二十几个的,完全可以自创。。龟甲船、战象都是典型的少数几 ...

还有,单位自身包含那几种攻防属性,怎么修改。我在AGE2.45单位编辑下面,怎么没找得到?

yty 发表于 2013-1-31 12:00:35

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 11:37 static/image/common/back.gif
还有,单位自身包含那几种攻防属性,怎么修改。我在AGE2.45单位编辑下面,怎么没找得到?

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阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 12:16:11

本帖最后由 阿拉伯野猪 于 2013-1-31 12:26 编辑

yty 发表于 2013-1-31 12:00 https://www.hawkaoe.net/bbs/static/image/common/back.gif
这个?

对,是在这里看的,我完全清楚 了。。。谢谢

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 12:23:48

本帖最后由 阿拉伯野猪 于 2013-1-31 12:25 编辑

yty 发表于 2013-1-31 12:00 https://www.hawkaoe.net/bbs/static/image/common/back.gif
这个?

对,是在这里看的,我完全清楚 了。。。谢谢

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 12:26:25

yty 发表于 2013-1-31 12:00 static/image/common/back.gif
这个?

还有那个图象增量你还没说呢

yty 发表于 2013-1-31 13:16:12

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 12:26 static/image/common/back.gif
还有那个图象增量你还没说呢

你英语可以吗?有一篇前人的文章说的很详细,我正在找

yty 发表于 2013-1-31 13:16:20

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 12:26 static/image/common/back.gif
还有那个图象增量你还没说呢

你英语可以吗?有一篇前人的文章说的很详细,我正在找

yty 发表于 2013-1-31 13:28:06

阿拉伯野猪 发表于 2013-1-31 11:24 static/image/common/back.gif
你太利害了。我对AGE2.45里面的图象增量不是很理解,能否解析一下。

终于找到了,这个帖子https://hawkaoe.net/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=106368

ericzhu 发表于 2013-1-31 22:30:58

技术上很好实现,找到投矛兵ID6、7,然后找到攻击的框,点击新增,类别设为大象类,然后数量改为你想增加的数字即可,投矛就能对象射手有附加攻击了。很简单

ericzhu 发表于 2013-1-31 22:41:44

这已经是最好的了,毕竟他投的是矛,长矛兵捅的也是矛,所以因该投矛兵本来也要对象加成才对。

lockoff 发表于 2013-2-1 10:53:06

象射逃不过追击,毛毛叉叉都能追着象射满地跑,11
所以不改我看也是可以的,总之还是要实战测试
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